Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Temasek Secondary School
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- No apparent reason that calls for deletion. No reason why a school shouldn't be allowed.
- Delete. Not notable. The issue is not that schools aren't allowed, but that Wikipedia articles must be about things that are reasonably famous. The article about this school consists of the single line "It is a secondary school located in Bedok, eastern part of Singapore." If it is going to be kept, someone needs to add some information explaining why this is interesting to anyone but alumni and citizens of Bedok. Did anybody famous go there? Does it have some significant historical association? Is the building architecture important? My guess is that the article will probably be deleted; if at some time someone finds a reason to include it they can always put it back. Dpbsmith 13:37, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Not everything in Wikipedia has to be notable. There are a LOT of small places around the world included (hit random page a few times to see). I see no reason not to include a school and I am not aware of anything in the rules about fame being a pre-requisite.
- Would people please sign their votes. Exploding Boy 14:21, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: Quite. And also not flag votes as minor edits. That one was by User:Mat-C if anyone is interested. Andrewa 19:18, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Would people please sign their votes. Exploding Boy 14:21, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Why would anyone who didn't go there want to read about it? That's what inquiring minds want to know. Postdlf 16:38 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Delete if not expanded - I've got a hundred schools near me I could add "It is a school located in" articles about, but I don't think they belong either. -- Cyrius|✎ 17:58, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Radicalsubversiv 07:23, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. In 2003 there was a good deal of debate over whether all secondary schools should have articles, and the general (not unanimous) consensus then was no. I don't know where or even whether this discussion was archived. I'm working on some ideas to try to make this sort of background more readily available to contributors, IMO there is a need. Andrewa 14:14, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: And I've done it. See whats In whats Out. Andrewa 02:05, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Not notable. DJ Clayworth 14:21, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Sander123 14:56, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. It's a school. That's the reason. anthony (see warning)
- Delete: not notable. Wile E. Heresiarch 03:58, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I think it is a terrible introduction to the Wikipedia for User:Mysteriou that his stub is being jumped on for VfDing in preference to advising that providing some more information on the page would be valued by the community. The article is three days old, for heavens sake. In other news, no-one is likely to stumble upon the Temasek Secondary School page, except through the random button, and so it is not really getting in the way of anything. Today I have my eventualist head on. --Tagishsimon
- Delete Bensaccount 04:11, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Wikipedia is full of entries for things that aren't famous or interesting. It doesn't cause any problems, so far as I can see. Cadr
- Comment: The question is can this article be expanded significantly? The answer appears to be no. Exploding Boy 11:21, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete -- For now, Googgle says nothing interesting about it, at all -- Gamera2 00:05, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Has affected more than 1000 people. [1] -- Tim Starling 02:14, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
- Almost every secondary school has affected more than 1000 people, so I'd argue that it's not a valid metric for determining inclusion of a particular school. It's like "lived more than 5 years" as the sole deciding factor on biographies. -- Cyrius|✎ 02:41, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: I suspect that no single criterion will work, and that's what's wrong with Stan's argument that Tim quotes above. This is also what I think Jimbo meant when he said that being encyclopedic is not the same as being "famous" or "noteworthy". Anything sufficiently famous or noteworth is ipso facto encyclopedic, but there are things which are neither, and still get included. That's one thing I'm trying to both study and work around with WIWO. Andrewa 03:07, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Of course almost every secondary school has more than 1000 people. They should all be included. My vote is to keep. -- Tim Starling 03:33, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
- Actually, I think every teacher who has taught at either of the two secondary schools I attended would qualify, too. Andrewa 03:46, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- So why did you vote to delete? anthony (see warning) 20:42, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Tim, you want to keep them all even if 95% will never be anything more than "It is a secondary school in $location"? That would get deleted for insignificance if it was anything else, why should a school get special treatment? -- Cyrius|✎ 04:04, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
- "Never" is an awfully long time. They'll be fleshed out eventually, be patient. -- Tim Starling 05:13, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
- I've added a couple more sentences and fixed the formatting. Please consider this change in your decision to delete or keep. -- Tim Starling 05:18, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
- Still non-encyclopaedic. Exploding Boy 07:59, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
- Actually, I think every teacher who has taught at either of the two secondary schools I attended would qualify, too. Andrewa 03:46, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Almost every secondary school has affected more than 1000 people, so I'd argue that it's not a valid metric for determining inclusion of a particular school. It's like "lived more than 5 years" as the sole deciding factor on biographies. -- Cyrius|✎ 02:41, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)