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US soldiers and their illegitimate children
[edit]What about the American illegitimate children in Vietnam? What about the the current children in this war? Also can someone link the main page to Military History of the United States I cannot place it under category. --Margrave1206 (talk) 04:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- I will try to specify by Category:Military history as fathers out of many countries were concerned.--Roland.h.bueb (talk) 17:59, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
See also personalities
[edit]I know why Anni-Frid from Abba is listed as a see also, but why is Eric Clapton? Vandalism? His article, and I know little about him, has no mention of him being a war child or having any other connection to this subject? --81.105.243.17 (talk) 02:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Children of Canadian soldiers in Europe
[edit]I removed the following sentence from the article:
- In total over eleven million Canadians served during the war, in Europe and in the Pacific.
This info was part of the original edit [1] (June 2006) that added this section in, but it's massively wrong. I have here a copy of R. A. C. Parker's The Second World War: A Short History that states that Canada's population stood in 1939 at 11,682,000, so it's clearly impossible that 11 million Canadians served during the war. 66.130.156.84 (talk) 07:04, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the recent deletion
[edit]This deletion I've read through source 1, it states : "När freden kom arresterades 14.000 av kvinnorna. 5.000 sattes utan rättsprocess i läger med tvångsarbete i ett och ett halvt år. Deras huvuden rakades, de misshandlades och våldtogs." Translated it becomes: "When peace arrived 14,000 of the women were arrested. 5,000 were without any judicial proceedings put into forced labor camps for one and a half years. Their heads were shaved, they were physically assaulted and they were raped."--Stor stark7 Speak 09:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Help for mothers and children
[edit]This paragraph is derived mainly from a translation from de.wikipedia:Besatzungskind#Hilfen für Mütter und Kinder. This translation is now finished. --Roland.h.bueb (talk) 17:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
8000 children and their mothers to Australia
[edit]I don't speak Norwegian, but the caption says "to Sweden, Germany and Australia", not "to Australia". Xx236 (talk) 11:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- 'The Norwegian government also made plans to forcibly deport 8000 children and their mothers to Australia'
Not sure whether this is accurate. The source is not in English but it is unlikely that the Norwegian would have any authority to 'deport' to Australia anyone other than an Australian citizen. Especially not at that time the children of German soldiers (Australia was at war with Germany from 1939 to 1945). Does the author mean Austria or alternatively did the Norwegian govt request that Australia accept the 8,000 as postwar refugees. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.52.232.140 (talk) 09:17, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- The source seems to say that the Norwegian government considered deporting 8000 children first to Germany, then Sweden, and Australia, but dropped the plans. - M0rphzone (talk) 07:00, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
German Wikipedia isn't a source
[edit]Reference 46.
Xx236 (talk) 07:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
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Does Kevin Kerr have a German or an English mother?
[edit]Quote from the article: "Notable children of British servicemen and German mothers include Lewis Holtby, Kevin Kerr, Maik Taylor and David McAllister." But in the article on Kevin Kerr it says: "Kerr is the son of a Scottish serviceman of the British forces in Germany and an English mother." -( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Kerr_(Scottish_footballer) )--78.35.88.203 (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2015 (UTC) Arjo
The number of Children fathered by Soviet soldiers
[edit]Well it says “at least 300,000 children fathered by Soviet fathers”but also said the number is 3000,The difference between the two data is too big,So,which is the right number? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nero011 (talk • contribs) 12:58, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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400,000 children from Allied Occuptaion of Germany from 1945 to 1955
[edit]For starters, neither citation given actually sources the book or cites the page number; both link to websites—one with German reviews of the book the other a Deutsche Welle article. News articles and book reviews are not considered a reliable source on wikipedia. Secondly, the information given in said DW article is extremely tenuous; the book uses the highest estimate of Soviet rapes of German women: 2 million (there are estimates far lower than that), and then uses that number to guesstimate the number of children born from Soviet Fathers. Anthony Beevor on the other hand using German medical records came to a figure of 1,100 children born as a result from Soviet Rape in Berlin in the immidiate aftermath of the war(“Children of World War II: The Hidden Enemy Legacy” page 233) out of the 300,000 to 400,000 rapes commited there. In other areas of Germany abortions were also widely available, and it’s impossible for that high of a percantage of births from rapes if all the numerous other sources that use actual records state an extremely low percentage resulted in preganancy let alone the abortions that were commited. I digress—the two links alone are not a reliable source whatsoever anyways. There are other estimates given in this article that contradict this that aren’t flimsy and don’t cite webpages. 2600:387:A:3:0:0:0:68 (talk) 06:03, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- OK. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:45, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Lol, you asked for it. 2600:387:A:3:0:0:0:68 (talk) 06:47, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
British war babies
[edit]the four listed should not fit the definition of war babies; they were all born long after the war. At the time they were born the British Army was not an army of occupation, either. The names should be deleted.Mwinog2777 (talk) 15:15, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
rhineland bastards
[edit]you should amend this as the term refers to the children of french black soldiers who impregnated german women in the great war and which is not a term one applies to other mixed-race children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.36.71 (talk) 21:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Glaring Ommission
[edit]Why is there no discussion of the Soviet soldiers in the 'Allied' section? Given they were by far the worst rapists of women in the war, and not all of the rape-pregnancies could have been aborted, there must have been many children of European mothers and Soviet soldier-fathers. So where are they in this article? There must have been research done on this. 2406:E003:1431:D701:B038:F47A:AD30:2B57 (talk) 09:45, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- 2406:E003:1431:D701:B038:F47A:AD30:2B57, if you have reliable sources you can add these yourself as Wikipedia is free to edit. -- — Donald Trung (talk) 13:20, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Another meaning for the term
[edit]Here in the US, War Babies is generally used to refer to US citizens who were born during WW II. As an example, I have a friend who considers herself one of the first real War Babies because she was born ten months after Pearl Harbor, and my older sister is one of the last as she was born in April 1945. If they don't get an article as a generation cohort, they should at least be mentioned here as a special case. JDZeff (talk) 06:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)