Talk:Historical novel

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• Barry Lyndon, Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ, The Last Days of Pompeii, Gone with the Wind, Forever Amber, The Agony and the Ecstasy, The Scarlet Pimpernel, Johnny Tremaine, Men of Iron, Captain Horatio Hornblower, Mutiny on the Bounty, Master and Commander and the whole of the Aubrey–Maturin series, now reckoned among the very best historical novels, for depth, chatacterization and accuracy, ever written : mention the outstanding examples, then deal with the industry that churns this stuff out.
• Bodice-ripper is a well-defined sub-genre, which sets steamy soft-core in a historical setting. Compare Romance to Novel. Georgette Heyer.
• Historical Drama by dramatists like Friedrich Schiller underlies most of Romantic opera. Modern historical drama includes Cyrano de Bergerac, The Devil's Advocate, A Man for All Seasons, The Lion in Winter, Amadeus.
• that'll start y'all off... Wetman 00:50, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Why not put this in the article? After italicizing the titles, of course. Ortolan88 00:56, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Why are there examples of "living historical novelists" included in the article in the first place? There is already a link for that (List of historical novelists or List of historical novels); it seems like a list of favourites to me. That info can be moved to the list page but shouldn't be included on the main page. Stoa 18:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

• Why only living novelists? What ever happened to Rosemary Sutcliff? or Cynthia Harnett? m.e. (talk) 06:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

All historical fiction is in novel-form?

It seems to me that this page is a bit confused, it would perhaps be better to distinguish between a historical novel on one hand, such as War and Peace, from the wider historical fiction genre - such as Braveheart. In usage, 'Novel' is exclusively reserved for books, while 'historical fiction' could be a film or a play or whatever. Zeth

Historical fiction redirects here to historical novel. Is that accurate? Can the term "historical fiction" only be applied to novels? I really don't think do. -Captain Crawdad 06:33, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I had the same problem. Someone linked the film 300 to historical fiction and the redirect came out here. It seems kind of strange for the medium on which the story is told to supersede the genre that it falls under. Since I'm not the only one that this has happened to I may attempt to fill it out if I can come up with some material. Hewinsj 05:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Patrick O'Brien's comments

• Patrick O'Brien — I think it was him, or someone writing an introduction to one of his Aubrey-Maturin stories — made some good comments about historical novels. i do not have them in front of me, but they did as I recollect include:
  • The Iliad is actually set several hundred years before Homer's time, yet noone refers to it as an historical novel.

The Iliad is not a novel. WCCasey (talk) 06:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

• • Bad historical novels drag in famous historical figures and manipulate them like puppets.

m.e. (talk) 06:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

What about Hilary Mantel? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.205.238.227 (talk) 14:01, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Duplication with Historical fiction

Please see the thread at Talk:Historical fiction#Duplication with Historical novel.   Will Beback  talk  08:45, 25 April 2010 (UTC) eg, things fall apart, historical fiction — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.111.50 (talk) 07:07, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Georg Lukács

I'm new here, but should this link be in the "See Also" section? I'm not comfortable with deleting it which is why I'm asking, but it seems like if he is linked, a lot of other people should be as well. BookBard (talk) 00:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I removed it. Anytime there are more then one links to the same page, you can remove the link from the article, Sadads (talk) 03:27, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for removing it and explaining it :) BookBard (talk) 20:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Your welcome! For small things like links, etc. Don't be afraid to Be bold. There is so much work to be done on Wikipedia, that as long as you have the best interests of the community in mind, we will gladly take any small improvements no questions asked (and if the improvement isn't optimal, it doesn't matter, because we can always fix it later, remember we are a WP:Work in progress). The best way to use talk pages is if there is a significant content problem that you aren't sure how to fix. However, even then, most articles don't have many people following them, so don't be alarmed if you don't get any response. In that case, the advice still holds: as long as you have the best interests of the community in mind, make the change; if it isn't optimal we can improve it later :) Also, if you ever have any questions feel free to contact individual users that you have worked with in the past. Those of us who have been around the community for a while have a pretty good sense of what is optimal vs what isn't! Sadads (talk) 17:23, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help and encouragement! I know it is easy to say, but it really does mean a lot :) This is all so different from anything I've ever done before, but I am learning more every time I do something and hopefully will keep gaining confidence in what I'm doing. BookBard (talk) 21:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

WorldCat Genres

Hello, I'm working with OCLC, and we are algorithmically generating data about different Genres, like notable Authors, Book, Movies, Subjects, Characters and Places. We have determined that this Wikipedia page has a close affintity to our detected Genere of historical-fiction. It might be useful to look at [1] for more information. Thanks. Maximilianklein (talk) 23:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Lists

A List of historical novels already exists, so I suggest that the lists here are redundant and should be incorporated there and deleted.