User talk:David Swink
Actually, there are numerous examples of capitalism existing quite nicely with a police state. Chile under Pinochet was a lab for the "Chicago school", South Korea and Taiwan were both strongly capitalist while under police state regimes and, yes, Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, fascist Spain and fascist Portugal were all capitalist. AndyL 23:29, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
If you check the article you'll see the examples are already listed and have, I believe, been listed all along immediately after the sentence in question. Anyway, you are being ideologically blinkered. Argentina, Taiwan, South Korea are all acknowledged to have simultaneously been police states and capitalist (quite successfully capitalist as well). As much as you would like to believe that authoritarianism cannot co-exist with capitalism and that therefore any police state could not have been capitalist history shows otherwise. Sorry to burst your ideological bubble. AndyL 21:14, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I'm surprised you missed the rest of the passage. Examples are quite clearly listed:
Furthermore, the fact that fascist states, on the one hand, and the USSR and the Soviet bloc, on the other, were police states does not mean that their commonality is a product of socialism. While many one-party states can be said to be police states, there is no correlation between socialism and police states, and most other one-party states (including some semi-capitalist one-party states) have also been police states. A few examples:
- Chile under General Augusto Pinochet
- the Republic of China under Chiang Kai-shek's Kuomintang,
- Afghanistan under the Taliban,
- Iran under the Shah (a monarchist police state).
- South Vietnam, South Korea, Singapore, etc. during certain periods of their recent history.
Conversely, there have been multi-party socialist states that have not been police states.
You are begging the question. Milton Friedman would be surprised to learn that Chile under Augusto Pinochet wasn't fully capitalist given that Pinochet's Chile was a laboratory for the Chicago School and praised by Margaret Thatcher as a model to be followed. AndyL 19:14, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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