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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was MERGE. dbenbenn | talk 23:48, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Grow Up America!

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This seems like mere advertising, the text looks like it was pasted from a promotion flyer, and the user does not have a user page. Book does not seem noteworthy (at least yet). Houshuang 03:11, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • I'm new-- please forgive me for an errors I may make. This is a book which I bought, read and know to be notable and popular. If I should do more than I already have to make it worthy, please let me know what to do. I edited the text to make it more neutral and also added a personal profile since it is apparently important for credibility. izrunas
  • Um you seem to have recycled the comments from the Amazon.com review [1] or somewhere. However the book is by a notable author, Michael J. Hurd, and should be kept if the article is fixed. Kappa 10:11, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • I believe that copy/pasting a book review qualifies as copyvio. The book isn't notable where I live, but given its subject that isn't saying much :) I'd say merge or keep, depending on the book's notability. Radiant! 13:09, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
  • Definatly a Copyvio at the moment, I vote Delete and stubify. --InShaneee 16:36, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Upon more reading of the rules, etc. for Wikipedia, I think it would be better to merge this entry into the Michael J. Hurd entry. Creating separate entries for the book seems overkill now. And incidentally, while portions of what I entered are indeed copied from the book's promotional material, I did so with the written consent of the publisher. Am I right, or what should I do? Thank you for your advice and guidance to this hapless newbie. izrunas
    • Getting consent from the publisher is a thoughtful step, and definitely puts you ahead of the game; I'll leave it up to others to decide the point at which promotional text is appropriate for an encyclopedia article. --Ray Radlein 01:17, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge into Michael J. Hurd. The author is notable, yes, but his article is still relatively short. There is no need for a host of subordinate articles. Maybe convert this article to a redirect. GeorgeStepanek\talk 02:53, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Merge makes sense to me. izrunas, please also put a copy of the consent notice from the publisher in the article's talk page. That way, future reader/editors will know that the copyright permissions have already been granted. Rossami (talk) 22:07, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge and Redirect. Rl 22:16, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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