Talk:Jealous Guy

This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

The Beatles Low‑importance

This John Lennon-related article is within the scope of WikiProject The Beatles, which focuses on improving coverage of English rock band The Beatles and related topics on Wikipedia. Users who are willing to participate in the project should visit the project page, where they can join and see a list of open tasks.The BeatlesWikipedia:WikiProject The BeatlesTemplate:WikiProject The BeatlesThe Beatles articles

Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to songs on Wikipedia.

To-do list:

For WikiProject The Beatles

A list of articles needing cleanup associated with this project is available. See also the tool's wiki page and the index of WikiProjects.

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Articles on each Beatle tour (Category:The Beatles concert tours). See: Missing articles.
Expand : The Lost Lennon Tapes, notable radio series which has spawned many bootlegs. Apple Records See also: Adopt an article
Stubs : See: Category:The Beatles song stubs
Update : Pics/Graphics wanted: Kenwood.
Verify : Beatle wives
Other : Project: Add {{WikiProject The Beatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members and coordinate tasks. Enter articles assessed as stubs onto this list, also list articles needing cleanup and other work here.

This article does not yet have a related to do list. If you can think of any ways to improve the article, why not create one?

Behind the Song

"The song is notable for its haunting and memorable minor key melody and its lyric of remorse"

Technically, Jealous Guy is in a major key - G major, to be exact. Maybe I'm splitting hairs here, but I think if the words "minor key" were removed from the above sentence it would become completely accurate and retain all of its meaning.

Notice how nobody has mentioned that John slept with another woman during his 'lost weekend'. How can people learn about and love the real John Lennon if such blatant facts are covered up?

That's partly what he's apologising about you dozy twonk. No-one's trying to cover it up, we all know it happened. It was actually Yoko's idea.--Crestville 16:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but it's not mentioned in the article is it? Don't you think that people should know all of the facts?

Oh yeah, defenately. Off the top of my head, I don't know the facts well enough but if you think you can fit it in, have a crack. But we're not trying to cover up the facts, we just didn't think it was that essential.--Crestville 23:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I personally think the fact that Yoko requested that he go away with May Pang is essential. Although there is some controversy of whether she told him to become romantically involved with her. I'm really not sure and wouldn't feel confident editing the article without all the facts. Unless anyone can confirm that she did? Because it is thought that she had affairs during this time as well.

Yoko told May Pang that "it would be good for John if you looked after him". This mentioned in lots of books, as well as May Pang talking about it in numerous interviews. Shotly after Yoko´s comment, John made a pass at May in a lift, which would have never done if he hadn´t had Yoko´s blessing.

andreasegde 12:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This has got to come out. It´s too "Chumley-Warner"

The song is notable for its haunting melody and its lyric of remorse. The lyric's theme is that the singer (???)is apologizing to his beloved (???)for having hurt her with his jealousy. Many have explained (???) the lyric as a reflection of the relationship between Lennon and Yoko Ono, but the subject matter has a wide appeal.

andreasegde 11:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chumley Warner?--Crestville 12:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Enfield. "Yes... Mr. Chumley-Warner, in the fut-chah (future) we will all be sitting, by plutonium fires with two-and-a-half children..." (Said in a very plummy accent.) andreasegde 00:45, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re haunting melody. Consider the possible influence of sorrowful Japanese Enka. Bet Lennon heard plenty of that live in Japan. His song has in parts some eastern pentatonic flavor I would say at least, and you know the other pole of a jealous guy is often the romantic one.Maltwhiskman (talk) 15:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lyric copyright infringement

Hi,

I have removed the lyrics added to this page. Although still officially unreleased 'Child of Nature' has been copyrighted (and will remain so until 2050). Without permission from the copyright holder it is an infringement of these rights to publish the lyrics in any form.

Please do not add complete reproductions of lyrical material that are still in copyright. As interesting as they are to read it is not permissible. The only way to deviate this is to add a link to another page where the lyrics have been reproduced. Although the link page will also be a breach of the copyright it will at least be someone else who is infringing this and not Wikipedia.

Thanks,

Pepperstool 10:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ballad removal

Ballad should be removed from the genre field of the infobox since it is not a music genre. Aspects (talk) 05:35, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promo vid

Who directed the promo vid? --Yeepsi (Talk to me!) 18:38, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Longet version

No mention in the article of the Claudine Longet version which precedes all except for the original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esi7GO6VXU4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.109.181.183 (talk) 01:30, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Klaus Voorman on the bass

The song features Klaus Voorman on the bass. However, the sencence "The bass guitar on the song is played by Klaus Voormann, a friend of The Beatles from their Hamburg days.", based on where it is, seems or it may imply that the Child of nature recordings have Voorman on the bass. If that is not the case, then the sentence should be moved to the section about the release.

ICE77 (talk) 19:47, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on Jealous Guy. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Jealous Guy. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130702141759/http://www.luckysdb.be/Jaren/1981.html to http://www.luckysdb.be/Jaren/1981.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:46, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Roberto Bellarosa version?

Is this section truly of enough importance to weigh so prominent in this songs legacy?

Yes, a digital download of this performance indeed charted #4 in a national chart (the French-speaking region of Belgium). But this was in direct relation to the artist performing it a few days earlier on the final episode of the Belgian version of "The Voice" (which he won, BTW.) It doesn't contribute much to the notability of this song beyond that. The significance of this performance is simply a transient moment reflecting its winning usage on a TV show contest that resulted in a surge of downloads in the days afterword. It's legacy doesn't extend beyond that. IMO, it merits mention in the broader "Other versions" section (Where Bellarosa's version is already noted) but to give it it's own section seems a false equivalence in relation to the original Lennon version and the more accomplished Roxy Music cover version.

Of course, if an editor feels a chart appearance of any kind merits its own section, then fine. But note that many wikipedia pages for notable songs have charting cover version that are often simply relegated to an "other versions" type sections. ShelbyMarion (talk) 16:26, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]