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Macdonald Rock, about 10 km NNE of Macauley Island at 30°09' S, 177°22' W (submerged)

my comment: 10 km is not equal to a full degree, this is much more. at least 55 km up to 111 at the equator. --BLueFiSH 23:53, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC) comment is correct, position was wrong - Macdonald Rock put back with corrected position --User:Ratzer 19:48, 08 May 2005

The coordinates of Macdonald Rock currently shown in our article are 30°09′S 178°22′W. According to Chart NZ 2225, its position is roughly 30°11.3′S 178°25.5′W, and it lies about 4 km directly north of Macauley Island. I'll update the article accordingly. -- Avenue 13:42, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This "rock" is clearly visible on Google Earth but looks rather like a submerged atoll or bank. I have discovered an other bank at -30 34 43.21 -178 32 04.49 near Curtis ! Is this place already named ? Otherwise I claim the right to name it ! stephane.jourdan gmail

No map?

No map? --Copey 2 02:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Does this link have information valid enough to include in this article? [1] 76.4.17.140 (talk) 21:44, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No. We generally don't include outrageous claims made by internationally-unrecognized fantasy nations. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:58, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bell family

"Bell family, lived on the islands from the early nineteenth century, growing food for the whalers, and remained until 1937"

There is no source for this and this link contradicts it https://www.raoulandcampbell.org/books/34-crusoes-of-sunday-island

First edition of this book published in 1957 by G Bell & Sons Ltd. Tells the story of the Bell family who settled on Raoul Island, in the Kermadec Islands. The story was told to the author by one of Tom Bell's daughters, Bessie, who was nine years old when the family landed on the island in 1878. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RMcD (talk • contribs) 17:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://teara.govt.nz/en/kermadec-islands/print?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=8f2a02f14c75f5dd40e9a75827793653351b9ca2-1599413369-0-AZ_0itLYgaGlmGScMk3owZxQVvkpgafJxkvSKHEIt8Pxav-RFSy6mkPdMmx3-ViO17_8667XgKB55xbG8cbuayTcvA4W3gkl0BEex_m6KpAxQtbn8HyHZTtMonVcvq1P0X0pTyU-OoSaPLCLqmBXdtUVHui3bh_7-zEJMO2N9eh34vNfg4b7R0lksB3SzMd4Y5RqlSBl7Q9NC74VMfPRiuL06l_5hze59ciMQbitPTTIj8IOw57Y6gKSqmNWu23g_-6lHBjdafvvRBiYoW4FKUjL2x60RrIXYI8LMOLDAIQtjq29Ma_EY7_Y8Z4Sl13LHQ

Here is more evidence that it is wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by RMcD (talk • contribs) 17:36, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think you missed some context. The sentence is "European settlers, initially the Bell family, lived on the islands from the early nineteenth century, growing food for the whalers, and remained until 1937." This doesn't say the Bell family was there over that period. The Te Ara link you gave does say "all left after the 1870 eruption", so there may have been a period of 1870-1878 when Raoul Island was unoccupied, but it's also possible that some returned later in 1870. Te Ara says "Raoul is the only island in the Kermadec group large enough to support settlement" but that doesn't establish that there were no unsuccessful attempts to settle other islands. Te Ara says the islands were deserted in 1917, apart from one escaped prisoner of war who was at least briefly on Curtis Island, so it is clear that there wasn't continuous settlement up to 1937. I'll tag the sentence as needing a reference.-gadfium 23:34, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]