User talk:Sl

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Current events

Hi hello, would you be interested to contribute to Current events in Hong Kong and Macao? best, — Instantnood 15:40, Jan 27 2005 (UTC)

DAB

The name of the merger of DAB and HKPA remains "Democratic Alliance for the Betterment of Hong Kong", according to the SCMP. Perhaps we can rename the original DAB article to "Democratic Alliance for the Betterment of Hong Kong (1992 to 2005)", and place the article about the new party at "Democratic Alliance for the Betterment of Hong Kong". — Instantnood 03:08 Feb 28 2005 (UTC)

The name "Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong" was seen in another newspaper "The Standard". --Hello World! 07:32, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Let us wait until the two parties are formally merged. — Instantnood 15:59 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)

"Mainland China" in titles

Hello. I have proposed at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese) to change the title of some articles and categories. Would you be interested to join the discussion and say something? — Instantnood 20:41, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

Donald Tsang

Hi I noticed you have added an interwiki link to the Japanese version, but the entry there is now empty. Is it deleted or moved to somewhere else? Thanks. — Instantnood 20:28, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

The article should be at ja:曽蔭権. I have forgotten that some kanji used in Japanese are different from the Chinese hanzi. --Hello World! 07:35, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I see. Thanks. — Instantnood 17:11, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

Wah Fu and Wah Fu Estate

I noticed you have added the {{merge}} and {{mergefrom}} tags on the two articles. I supposed the reason why they are two articles because the Wah Fu article is about the broader area comprises of Wah Fu and Wah Kwai estates. — Instantnood 14:59, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

I don't think there is such a district called Wah Fu. I have put my reason on Talk:Wah Fu.--Hello World! 15:01, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I've responded there too. — Instantnood 17:26, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Collaboration

I think both Chinese and English HK Wikipedians need more collaboration, for example, translation and copyediting project. That's just my out-of-a-second brainchild. User:Tonync told me to find you 'cos you are "the most active Hong Konger over there," and "an admin" as well. Honestly, I think your advice would help in some ways. :) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 06:32, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Questions

Is the Schwa (Cyrillic) also used in Uighur? Also, on your user page, are you saying you come from Hong Kong, or came from Hong Kong (and no longer live there)? Thanks ~ Dpr 17:21, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out the mistake in my user page. I still like in Hk. Uyghur language once used Э(э) for [ɛ] sound, but Uyghur language is using Arabic alphabet in China now. See Uyghur_language#Writing_system. --Hello World! 06:44, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

User Categorization

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Hong Kong page as living in or being associated with Hong Kong. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Hong Kong Wikipedians for instructions. Rmky87 19:07, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

It has ceased to be, it is an ex-open-proxy

Please unblock 210.0.201.213 as it is an IP used by me in my workplace. Thank you Hello World! 15:51, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

That's an easy one, they already closed that proxy down in response to an earlier request. Unblocked. Happy editing! --fvw* 19:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Sheung Shui minibus

Alright. Thanks for clarifying. See if it's better now. :-) [1] — Instantnood 14:44, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

It's interesting. :-) — Instantnood 08:32, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Bắt đầu từ nay

My translation to English was as close as possible to the original Vietnamese while following English grammar. If you'd like to translate it into Chinese, let me know what you're having problem with and I might be able to help. A good tool is this Chinese-Vietnamese dictionary: [2]. You just need to type in Chinese characters in the box and it will give you the Sino-Vietnamese form of the word. DHN 05:29, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

zh-Hakka

You removed the English translation of the tab, but I think this should be kept in. The site is the en.wikipedia.org, and I believe it would be helpful for English language readers to know what the script in Chinese means. If you leave it out, it becomes just a mystery for non-readers of Chinese text, and on an English language site, that is exclusionary. Dylanwhs 09:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Follow-ups Template_talk:User_zh-hakka

Requested moves

I have removed your requests for moving a number of templates here. There does not seem to be any discussion or consensus regarding the matter, so please repost once this has been done. I am also posting this on User talk:Mistress Selina Kyle, as I am not certain where the discussion should take place regarding these templates. Thanks. --HappyCamper 20:10, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

In your edit history, you have modified a tremendous number of templates. Leaving an edit summary "bismala language ought to be bi" in my mind does not constitute sufficient dialogue for the changes. Although boldness is good on Wikipedia, I'd highly encourage you to talk to other editors who have an interest in these templates to see what they think. I have been told that many of your changes have since been reverted, so this is probably a good indication that more discussion is necessary before the changes you propose are made. Why don't you leave a message for User:Mistress Selina Kyle and see what this Wikipedian suggests? Thank you for your understanding. --HappyCamper 22:09, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi! I'm removing your requests to move the four templates since there was no discussion or notice other than WP:RM created. If you wish to move those pages you'll need to create an area for discussion. Thanks! WhiteNight ^{T | @ | C} 21:35, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

It's back! Properly requested and discussion areas properly made, the move you requested a while ago can be discussed at Template talk:User bi. —BorgHunter (talk) 04:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Newton's laws

In your second edit, it looked on the difference page like you just took out all the interwiki links, that's why I reverted it. It looked like somebody playing around with test edits, an edit summary would have helped. Apparently you had just duplicated them in your first edit. Gene Nygaard 14:26, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: American English templates

I didn't realize it had already been created. However, the {{User AmE}} template is much more popular, already has its own category, and has been listed at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Non-ISO Languages. Also, the {{User AmE-0}} template was created much earlier, I think it would be best to just redirect {{User en-US}} to {{User AmE}}. --Schzmo 03:22, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Proxy

If it's a transparent proxy and the developers (ie, Tim Starling) feel it can be trusted to transmit the correct underlying IP address, then there is a possible solution. I've left a message on his talk page, perhaps you can follow up with him. -- Curps 17:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject C++

The WikiProject C++ aims to increase the quality of C++-related articles on Wikipedia, and has discovered that you have participated in the editing of them! So don't hesitate, join us! --Deryck C. 15:42, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Az-nahcivan1.gif

I noticed that you tagged the page Image:Az-nahcivan1.gif for speedy deletion with the reason "already have Image:Az-nakh1.gif". However, "already have Image:Az-nakh1.gif" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can use one of our other deletion processes, proposed deletion or articles for deletion if you still want the article to be deleted. Thanks! However, since you are the only contributor to the page, you can tag it with {{db-author}} to have it speedily deleted under criterion G7. Because images are not recoverable once deleted, I thought I'd just remove the tag and let you know rather than assuming that deletion under any criterion was what you wanted. Additionally, images that are redundant can sometimes be deleted using {{Redundant image}}, but that's not easy to judge. Hope this helps! Stifle 17:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Latin letter template

Ze and che are used in the Latin alphabet. They were borrowed from Cyrillic for Zhuang, just like Y and Z were borrowed from Greek. --Ptcamn 19:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

iso 639-1

your are my WP hero of the day for your edits at list of ISO 639-1 codes [3] - Tobias Conradi (Talk) 21:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

ISO 15924

Since you edited ISO 15924 you may be interested in Template talk:User cyr and Category talk:User cyr. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ISO 15924 codes by letter code - Tobias Conradi (Talk) 16:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Babel-N

Nice. Consolidating all the features of the other Babel templates into just Babel (the 'Babel-0' addition there was a good idea) and Babel-N allows alot of template cleanup and standardization. --CBD 13:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the Babel-N and Babel templates are basically parallel templates which just work a little differently. We could probaly have just one of them, but people have different preferences and it doesn't hurt to have both. I changed Babel-0 into a redirect to Babel. It and the other remaining redirects (Babel-X, Babel-1, Babel-2, Babel-3, and Babel-4) could probably be replaced on the individual user pages and then deleted. --CBD 14:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

My userpage/Babel-1

It is crucial that {{Babel-1}} persist as something, whether it be the correct template or as a redirect, in my opinion.

I do a great deal of work on sister projects to ensure things like templates at least try to be consistent. Babel templates are some of the older templates in very widespread use. It would simply be idiotic to break existing things without syncronizing all WMF projects everywhere. Of course, to do that, you'd have to communicate with all sister projects in all languages first...

By keeping my userpage pointing to the old format, the likelyhood that some well-intentioned (short-sighted) idiot will delete the redirect is lower.

Edits to people's user pages without their permission is vandalism. You have been on WMF projects about the same amount of time as I have - you should know this by now. Please do not edit the template on my user page.

Thanks for your time,

--Connel MacKenzie - wikt 19:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Bopomofo character

If you have one that needs encoding, I need evidence for it to get it encoded. -- Evertype·✆ 23:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I have made a draft proposal. Would you like co-author credit? -- Evertype·✆ 10:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Tufa Lilugu

Because Tufa Lilugu deals with ancient Chinese history, I think it properly falls under the province of traditional characters -- so replacing traditional characters with simplified characters is wrong. (See WP:MOS-ZH.) If you want to, add the simplified characters -- don't replace. But I think even adding simplified characters would not be correct except in the introductory paragraph. --Nlu (talk) 16:30, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year! Wish you all the best in the year of the pig. Wish you a year full of knowledge and energy. As nurtured as a pig, as content as a pig. Greetings from Hong Kong. --Deryck C. 16:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Broadcasted

My reply - [4] - Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Tan An

It was upgraded to grade-III city status on September 2. DHN 16:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Moves of province articles

Hello, thank you for your great work with Vietnam-related articles. Just one thing: it appears that you moved all the province articles to titles without diacritics. We are still discussing that at Wikipedia:WikiProject Vietnam (where you are invited to join--just add your name under the "Participants" section--we'd love to have you), so if you could avoid moving such articles in the future before we've come to a consensus about that, it would be great. Badagnani 17:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for your valuable correction of Chinese articles posted by myself. Hopefully you will continue your help in my future Vietnam-related articles.Genghiskhanviet 01:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Chinese characters

Hi, could you provide the text for these images? Image:Yi Gang Wei Gang Quan Mian Yue Jin.jpg and Image:Three_Red_Flags.jpg We need to gloss them in Vietnamese but I have to use a tool that takes in characters in machine-readable format. Thanks! DHN 03:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Bánh chưng

Can you tell what the character is in the photo at Bánh chưng? Badagnani 07:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ask for help

Can you help me ? What is this name忽必来 (he is a general of 成吉思汗) in English ? What is the ralation between 忽必烈 and 忽必来, are they son and father ? Thank you. I don’t understand this paragraph since it is written in an old form. 忽必来(?—1211)，又作虎必来。蒙古国大将。八鲁剌氏。以雄勇著称。

早年与弟忽都思投靠铁木真(成吉思汗)，随从参加统一蒙古各部战争。宋淳熙十六年(1189)，共同拥戴铁木真为蒙古部汗，充“云都赤”(佩刀侍卫)。嘉泰二年(1202)，受命整顿军纪，对战争中违令私掠财物之阿勒坛、忽察儿等予以惩治，籍设其所掠财物。四年，充先锋，征乃蛮部，威震群敌，战功居多。开禧二年(1206)蒙古国建立时，封千户长，并总管汗国军务。为十大功臣之一，与者勒蔑、哲别、速不台并称“四獒”。据《史集》载，其所辖千户隶属成吉思汗第五子阔列坚。后统兵西征哈刺鲁，成吉思汗六年(1211)，迫使哈刺鲁部主阿儿思兰汗归降，并携其至怯绿连河(今克鲁伦河)行宫朝觐成吉思汗。旋卒。... ... Thank you very much.Genghiskhanviet 10:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Tay Nguyen

At your request, I translated this paragrah Tay Nguyen now is also called “Tây Nguyên Trung Bộ” (translating into Chinese, no relation to the name:中部高原). During Republic of Vietnam, it was formally called “Cao Nguyên Trung Phần (translating into Chinese, no relation to the name:中分高原).Genghiskhanviet 17:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Hán tự requests

Hi, just letting you know I contacted the Nom Foundation and am still waiting to hear back from the scholar John Balaban promised to put me in touch with, whom he said is an expert on this sort of thing. We'll get the place names sorted out soon, I'm convinced. The weirdest thing is that all the folks in Vietnam, with all the universities they have there, don't have access to any reference book that gives the etymologies of the place names in their own country. That is just weird. Badagnani 02:43, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I just heard from Ngo Thanh Nhan (a chu nom/Han tu expert) and he is going to work on figuring out the traditional characters for the place names you asked about. Keep watching the "Han Tu requests" page at WP:VN. Badagnani 19:27, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, Ngo Thanh Nhan just wrote to me after reading the list of place names you want the traditional characters for. He said:

However, for a start, you may want to ask for a list of Vietnamese towns in Chinese from

-- the Vietnamese Embassy in China, or

-- the Saigon Giai Phong newspaper or Nhan dan which have a Chinese edition, or

-- the tourist books in Japanese, Chinese or Korean

-- A Vietnamese-Chinese (Viet-Trung dictionary) that has a list of geographic names

By the way, where did you get the name Càng Long? Badagnani 17:14, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Hán nôm

What does the term "Hán nôm" mean? You just added it to Ha Long. I think the term for Chinese characters is Hán tự. Badagnani 02:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, one sees "Hán-Nôm" at this page, but I think it means that the output of this tool gives both Hán tự and Chu nôm. By the way, do you have the tool that lets you type Vietnamese diacritics? I just got it recently and it's great! It also lets one type pinyin, French, Spanish, German, etc. If you want it let me know and I'll tell you how to get it. Badagnani 02:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hán Nôm (汉喃文) means Vietnamese articles written in Chu Nom and Han tu in Vietnamese language. --虞海 (Yú Hǎi) (talk) 06:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC) (Using 59.108.199.144)

Question: ɿ, ʅ, ʮ and ʯ

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Missing ref?

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Germanic languages

Hi, because its not a language on its own; just a pronunciation variation of the standard language. Standard languages are simply languages bound by certain all agreed on rules. Standard Dutch doesn't have a code; Dutch does. The same applies to English; it has a code (classification/tree etc); American and British English don't. Same goes for Belgian Dutch.HP1740-B (talk) 17:41, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:

It was done by User:Sry85 already. ^^ --Passawuth (talk) 15:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Aragonese language

Thanks for letting me know, and sorry for reverting without double checking. I was actually on the Ethnologue website when I saw the change, so that's why I noticed it was different (but didn't notice it said 14th edition). Would it not be better to use the 15th edition in the info box for the most updated statistics? I noticed that the 15th edition has differences in some of the top languages. Kman543210 (talk) 12:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

"Must use HTML"

In the Greek alphabet article, you replaced a number of Unicode characters with their numeric character entity equivalents, with the comment "must use HTML". But in fact both representations are legal and correct HTML, and the Unicode characters are much easier to read when editing. Could you please explain this change? Surely we are not going to replace everything that is not Latin-1 with numeric character entities. Thanks. --macrakis (talk) 01:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

ISO 639-5

Thanks for pointing me to Talk:ISO 639-5 and thanks for updating the 639-5 templates :-) TalkChat (talk) 13:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

'car' - see User_talk:Alvestrand#ISO_639 and [5]. If you find more strange things with codes, we should try to add them to the ISO 639 page, if possible to the relationship table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TalkChat (talk • contribs) 18:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hmong Wikipedia

Hi! I found meta:Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Hmong

There are some well-known Hmong discussion groups, and I think they have to do with a University in Minnesota. Maybe this issue could be revisited and maybe (a) Hmong Wikipedia(s) could be created?

Looking at websites of agencies with Hmong language support (Hennepin County Library, City of Minneapolis, etc), they just have "Hmoob"/"Hmong" sections - no clarification of which kind of Hmong is used. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

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