Talk:Dachshund

Doxon and doxie as nicknames for a dachshund

Are "doxon" or "doxie" valid nicknames for a "dachshund" ?

"Doxie" has been used for ever. It's a easier to read version of "dachsie" which is pronounced fairly similarly and is short for "dachshund."

"Doxon," "daschund," "dotson," "doxen," and "dash hound" are all misspellings/mispronunciations, with "dash hound" being probably the most common one. Just because it is common does not mean it is "equally correct." It is not a regionalism like, say, "aluminium" is, or a dialect difference such as speakers of AAVE using "axe" instead of "ask." An earlier comment suggested it was valid because "I've seen it used on Etsy." Etsy does not spell check its users' posts before they go live. Either the seller on Etsy cannot spell "dachshund," or they are banking on their buyers not being able to spell it and want to optimize their hits in the search.

Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 02:23, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately all that is Original research. ... Thanks,   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  02:58, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Are Etsy and eBay staff using the terms, or are users using the terms? If it's the latter, then it's not a reliable source (although it could be indicative of how the terms are being used). Let's find a better source before including. —C.Fred (talk) 15:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I just started working on "doxie" first of all.

Already one sees that currently on Wikipedia for "doxie" there is a hatnote back to dachshund.

So I did a search for: doxie dachshund on HighBeam Research (I wasn't aware of HighBeam's partnership with Wikipedia).

There were 54 results listed, and so I'll just include here a few of the most recent.

Being sufficiently recent for all these they showed up without needing to sign up for the partnership with HighBeam.

1. This one is from The Gazette (Colorado Springs) a Pulitzer Prize winning newspaper based in Colorado Springs, Colorado:

Hot dog is top dog when these Colorado Springs dachshund owners get together, (September 10, 2017)

2. This one is from a paper called the Northwest Herald:

Dachshund dogs to race in Sunset Doxie Derby in Lake in the Hills (August 25, 2017)

3. This one is from the Los Angeles Daily News:

Buck the Dachshund puppy is ready to play (August 18, 2017)

4. So this one is from The Spokesman-Review

Breast cancer survivors find support at 10th Komen Race for the Cure (April 27, 2015)

Please feel free to post any thoughts on that.

Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 01:33, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

For a similar search of: doxon dachshund on HighBeam there's 0 results. So that's evidence that doxie has gotten to be more prevalent than doxon. Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 01:40, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

And a search for just doxon on HighBeam is giving 26 results, but it doesn't seem that any of them are references to the dachshund dog breed. Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 01:45, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Name capitalization question

Is there a reason why dachshund in the text (as well as on at least one other page is lowercase? It looks like other dog names, even those not including a modifier that usually takes a capital (French, English, etc.), are capitalized:

• Bulldog
• Border Collie
• Pug
• etc.

I didn't want to make a change in case this was a particular element of how the breed is discussed. I really don't have a dog in this fight, to use a related expression; I just noticed the inconsistency and was wondering why it existed. nwatra (talk) 14:34, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Per MOS:COMMONNAMES, common names ... except there they contain proper names or when such name starts in a sentence use lower case initial letters. I am assuming this applies to dogs. Here's a link that discusses caps in dog names: http://www.onlinegrammar.com.au/dog-breeds-and-capital-letters/. Seems to be "a trend towards more minimal capitalization" in the dog world, however, the names of animal breeds are often capitalized in publications produced by official breeders. As far as WP is concerned, I think we have to adhere to the "rules" set out in MOS:COMMONNAMES. So, dog names should not be capitalized unless they include a proper name or at the beginning of a sentence.-- BC  _{talk to me} 22:16, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. So it looks like a fair number of the other dog pages (and some cats and horses, based on some quick searching) are out of sync with MOS:COMMONNAMES. (Looks like this has been an question for a while; I feel like bringing them into alignment will be a big task. nwatra (talk) 20:33, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

WP should include something clear about caps and dog/cat/horse breeds. Consensus should be reached, and such consensus should relate to proper grammar (e.g. see above link) and the fact that there is supposedly a trend towards more minimal capitalization. IMO, WP should not adopt a capitalization policy based on the fact that official breeders' publications most often capitalize their breeds.-- BC  _{talk to me} 21:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

External links part modified

Just added a link to educational article with a video about Dachshund. I think it will be very interesting for kids (video) and adultsMark.barkan (talk) 11:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Capitalization (or not) of military ranks

Re: German field marshal Erwin Rommel

A military rank or job title is capitalized when followed by a person's name to form a title, but not when modified. MOS:MILTERMS says "Military ranks follow the same capitalization guidelines as given under § Titles of people", and that section says "For fuller details, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies § Titles of people." The example there (in MOS:JOBTITLES) shows that a modified title is not capitalized: "Mao met with US president Richard Nixon in 1972." Of course, if not modified by the nationality, it would be changed to "Mao met with President Richard Nixon in 1972.", with "President" capitalized. So MOS:JOBTITLES takes precedence over the other two abridged sections of the MoS. Chris the speller ^yack 00:43, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

German breeding ban contreversy

Hi

I wondered if it might be appropriate to add a bit on the controversy this year about a German bill on dog breeding which was misinterpreted as a potential ban on the Dachshund. It could go under 'Symbol of Germany', as the German Kennels Association made a big deal about it and launched a petition.

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68689823

Thanks, TheDelix (talk) 19:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Doesn't seem too relevant to dachshunds given the bill isn't going to target them (despite the description applying exactly to them), if the bill did target them it could be relevant.

Unrelated but that BBC article is a great example of how normally reliable sources are absolutely terrible when it comes to coverage of animal breeds and animal health. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

That is a good point @Traumnovelle - thank you.

The truth might be that the bill has little to do with the Dachshund, but it may be useful to talk about the controversy as in media etc. it was definitely seen as specifically about the Dachshund.

Perhaps it would be a good way of correcting this particular misinformation?

Thanks, TheDelix (talk) 21:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

I doubt this will be an event that lasts in people's mind, it was a short lived outrage shortly quelled with a statement. If the bill does ultimately result in a ban on dachshund breeding it'd be worth including but unless there's some sort of change to German breed standards like in the aftermath of Pedigree Dogs Exposed then this event will likely be nothing more than just a temporary outrage swiftly forgotten. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:18, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Ok agreed

Thanks, TheDelix (talk) 21:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)